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Here's my HP 25C. She's 47 years old. That's old for a calculator. The original battery pack is, of course, shot. Luckily it has not leaked. Yes, you can always replace the NiCd cells like I did.
Eventually though, they will leak, and destroy another calculator. Plus the chargers are getting harder to find, and are less and less reliable.
Let's get those marvelous calculators a LiPo and a USB-C charging port and keep them running for another 45 years.

Inspired by the excellent project from @tomcircuit, albeit for a different line of calculators, see https://hackaday.io/project/175815

The goal here is to create a battery pack that is self contained and does not require any modification to the calculator itself.

No calculator was harmed during the production of this project.

The circuit consists of a size 804030 1000 mAh LiPo battery with its charger, a buck converter that generates 2.5V for the calculator, and a protection circuit (ideal diode + zener). The pack can be recharged when removed from the calculator and sports a USB-C connector (no PD though, it's a dumb USB-2 level connector).

Spring leaf AAA battery contacts are used to connect the output of the converter to the calculator and are mounted on the bottom of the PCB, with the springs on top to meet the rivets on the calculator. To leave enough space for the battery, PCB thickness must be 0.8mm.

Even accounting for power loss in the converter, in terms of capacity, this circuit should be an improvement over the original two AA NiCd cells. And look, Ma, no leaking! Maybe a little fire or a little explosion, because lithium-ion, but no leaking...

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  • 1 × U1 MCP73831-2-OT LiPo charger
  • 1 × U2 ADP2108AUJ-2.5 Buck converter
  • 1 × U3 MAX40200AUK Ideal diode
  • 1 × J1 GCT_USB4125-GF-A_REVA2 USB C connector (power only)
  • 1 × L1 0805 1 uH

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  • A year later...

    CYUL01/17/2024 at 02:54 0 comments

    So, I learned another, not so funny lesson. Someone liked one of my designs so much that he went out, set up shop and started to sell them without even giving credit...

    So, from now on, I am changing the license for all my designs to CC BY-NC-SA 4.0. You can build one for yourself, or your best friend, or your mum, but you cannot sell it as a product. If you change something, think it's genius, and absolutely want to share what you have done, you have to credit me and it has to be shared under the same license.

    What a world...

    The 3D models for the case now live on MakerWorld.

  • It's alive!

    CYUL02/12/2023 at 15:37 0 comments

    PCBs were received from the fabrication house and they work!

    Here is a photo of the battery pack being charged inside a temporary housing that I 3D printed using my  trusty Ender Pro while waiting for the laser sintered parts that I ordered, then another one with the pack in place (it is exactly as difficult to remove from the calculator as the original), then a picture of a happy calculator.

    LED displays take such a weird hue in digital photos, what's this about?

    Also, why is it so difficult to find beige/cream/ivory/bone white PLA anywhere?

    The next step is to integrate a Qi receiver in there. I looked around and there doesn't seem to be any hobbyist friendly solution. I am currently looking at Texas Instruments (oh, the irony!) BQ51050B chip. The datasheet is very unhelpful. Wireless looks hard! Thankfully that (expensive!!!) chip is available in a 20 pin VQFN package. Whereas I was soldering most of this by hand, soldering this much smaller package of a chip seems like a challenge. It should be feasible with patience, some solder paste and a hot plate (literally a hot plate: I plan to use our ceramic stove). I would use a 20mm coil.

    If anyone has hints on how to calculate C1 and C2, or a working design I could reference, please hit me up.

  • First PCB. Lessons learned.

    CYUL01/24/2023 at 02:44 0 comments

    I got the first batch of PCBs back from JLCPCB and found out several mistakes.

    1. I had inverted the two 2.5V contacts. Positive is negative and vice versa. I changed my mind in the middle of the initial design and moved the PCB to the bottom of the case instead of right under the top of the enclosure, and this happened... See the minus sign on the multimeter display? Shouldn't be there. Grrrr...
    2. The spring contacts do not touch the bottom rivet of the contacts inside the calculator. Rather they make contact on the top part of the rivet. It works but barely. I am not sure my HP25 is typical, because that's my only Woodstock, but the contact rivets are very very small. I wonder if it's normal.
    3. The buck converter stalls when you turn the calculator on (too much current is drawn at once) and only recovers to about 1V vs. its nominal 2.5V
    4. The 1.25mm connector is way too small. It works with small batteries, the 200 mAh kind that run mini drones, but that won't work for larger batteries, the wire are just too big for those connectors.

    So I went back to the drawing board:

    1) and 2) I reworked the PCB to solder the contacts to the bottom of the PCB (and corrected the polarity issue). I changed the outline of the board to hopefully simplify construction. There are notches to guide the contacts when soldering them from the bottom. I wrote + and - in the calculator compartment to remind me.

    3) I found someone who had a similar problem with the ADP2108. It turns out, at 3MHz, every millimeter of PCB trace counts. I solved the problem on the prototypes by soldering a 4.7uF capacitor right on the converter pins. Back to the drawing board, again, to change the PCB and shorten the traces. While I was at it, I completely redesigned the layout.

    4) I changed the 1.25mm Molex connector for a 2.0mm JST connector. It's going to be tight but it (seems to) fit.

    Now there is a new iteration of the enclosure to make space for the battery contact tabs on the bottom (wall thickness has to be at least 1mm, so I just made a hole) and also, since the through hole of the JST connector is smaller than the SMT equivalent, I had to leave space for the two prongs at the bottom of the PCB.


    The order for a new PCB is at JLCPCB. Waiting for the first iteration of the enclosure that goes with the 1st PCB. We'll see if that would have worked mechanically.

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SirWolf wrote 01/30/2023 at 07:31 point

Even better option would be LiFePO4 cells IMHO.

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CYUL wrote 01/17/2024 at 03:35 point

With the energy density of LiPo, in this rather small enclosure, I theoretically get close to 10 hours at 160 mA (more realistically 8 hours). LiPo cells are plentiful and come in all sorts of shapes, not sure I can find the exact right size in LiFePO4 which on top of that has a lower energy density anyway.

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