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Where oh where should the RJ45 go?

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It can power the Raspberry Pi Zero over Ethernet. The board also adds an Ethernet Phy to the Raspberry Pi Zero to give you full Ethernet

julienjulien 02/05/2016 at 06:059 Comments

Sometimes you get deep into a schematic design and forget to ask the question where is it all going to fit? I assumed that an RJ45 would fit nicely at the end of the PiZero. Well it doesn't, it violates the footprint of the Pi connector and the mounting holes. It could be placed in the center of the board but that will seriously disrupt the flow of the routing (which will be tight).

An alternative is to overhang the connector. This violates the Hat specs but I dont yet see the benefit to constraining the board to those specs. Any ideas on where the RJ45 conn can go?

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Arya wrote 02/06/2016 at 18:28 point

I personally would make an external connector board, connect them with a socketable cable. This way, it's awesome for making enclosures as you can actually place the jack anywhere, or even secure that in place relative to the pHat with a metal bracket and some screws, and a shorter cable. I think you can violate the Hat specs this way without punishment =)

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julien wrote 02/06/2016 at 23:34 point

yeah the current design violates the mechanical standards for sure. Ill give this some serious thought because it would allow easy expansion to other projects as well. 

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K.C. Lee wrote 02/06/2016 at 17:37 point

There are low profile RJ45 connectors (needs external magnetics).  
http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-1888250-1.html

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julien wrote 02/06/2016 at 23:37 point

cool part! But the width is the same so I cant put it between the mounting holes. I wish it wasnt 10$, its very cool. 

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K.C. Lee wrote 02/07/2016 at 01:25 point

They use a similar style of connector in my $3.5 USB hub + 100BaseT dongle, so there got to be a much cheaper source from China.

I don't own any Pi related product, but those clearances for standoff looks huge in the picture.  There are Chinese (metirc) brass standoff that takes the same amount of clearance as a nut.

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julien wrote 02/07/2016 at 04:38 point

There are some cheap ones from Digikey as well, $3.50 when you buy one. We will save about 2mm in height with this part which would put the top of the Ethernet connector on the same plane as the top of the Pi. That would look sweet, If you clip of the LED pins it is pin compatible with the current connector. Ill see if I can incorperate both LED pins.

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julien wrote 02/07/2016 at 04:41 point

If TE's site ever lets me download the part Ill render is into the existing model to see how it looks. 

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K.C. Lee wrote 02/07/2016 at 05:29 point

There is a 3D model for the TE connector 1888250-2 on http://www.3dcontentcentral.com
It requires you to register etc. to see the page because it is a vendor model.  Their registering is relatively painless.  I use a lot of 3D models from the site for my Eagle CAD modelling.  They offer a lot of formats for downloads.

http://www.3dcontentcentral.com/Search.aspx?arg=rj45&keywordsnavigator=Electronic%20connectors&page=6

entry: "Cat 5 modular RJ45 jack, 8/8, R/A, 2xLED"

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Alex Willmer wrote 02/06/2016 at 16:30 point

Maybe of interest, someone on Hacker News mentioned they were routing Ethernet signals through the extra pins of a USB-C connector https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10944252. Perhaps that plus a USB-C <-> RJ45 pig tale would help.

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